Kaddisfly - Demos & Rarities (2011)

http://kaddisfly.bandcamp.com/





1. Man On a String 3:49
2. Lately 4:12
3. Hourglass 2:58
4. It Has To Be This Way 3:34
5. Conan 3:04
6. You Are A Painter 4:11
7. Slow Motion 4:10

Holee Fuck.

Seriously, these are TREMENDOUS. I dig Water & Bodies, but these are just, so fucking good. So big, dynamic, epic, powerful.

Most fans, including those who are very into W&B still stand by the belief K-Fly are more or less done. But if you do hear it from some that know the guys (Dan Fury and some others namely), they'll still stick with Kaddisfly is not ultimately done, and someday Horses Galloping on Sailboats will be fully written and recorded.

edit: This is a collection of demos and rarities recorded between 2007- 2008. There is no timeline for when Horses Galloping on Sailboats will be recorded. These songs are for all the fans that have stuck with us and shown their love. This marks our 10 year anniversary. Thank you.

credits
released 17 December 2011
Tracks 1-3 recorded at Rain City Studios (Portland, OR). Produced by Ryan Furlott.

Tracks 4-6 recorded at Interlace Audio (Portland, OR). Produced by Kris Crummett.

Track 7 recorded at East Lake Recording (Springfield, MA). Produced by Enoch Jenson.

Original Artwork by: Ryan Case
Cover Design by: Christopher Ruff

The last thing I heard in regards to Kaddisfly, was some talk of doing a reunion show, I want to say the hope was this fall, but I don't believe it ever happened.

Anyway, as far as this release, they sound awesome, and you know what? I am going to likely include these in my 2011 Index, as silly as it sounds. These songs I'll probably go back to, at least a few times in the coming weeks, to believe this collection, even just as demos (and what sounds like pretty damn well produced demos, at that), they are as good if not better than many records from earlier this year.

Also the fact, I fucking love Kaddisfly doesn't hurt.

Along with last year, while at least it was in November, those The River Empires Demos/Rarities were somewhat in a similar in coming-in-at-the-last-minute-but-still-too-good-not-to-forget.

I dunno, maybe putting these up may spark something new from Kaddisfly camp in 2012? Water & Bodies have done their thing, 2 EPs and a full-length. If Kile and Beau are both available in some capacity, maybe those guys could find the time next year. I know a ton of fans would be totally overjoyed. In the mean time, I and those fans are going to love the fuck out of these tunes.

And to think, some moron at Atlantic Records chose Circa Survive over hearing these? lol. So typical, yet still incredibly pathetic.

oh and one other note, I likely would have been on these earlier, but I just saw The Book of Right On headline at The Cedar Cultural Center. Incredible show (from them namely). But to say that along with a cold and stuff with the gf may make the near impossible, just that (impossible) given net hours to write 50 some blurbs. My best guess will be I'll email and call-in to Used Bin Radio on Tuesday night, and at least by the time said show is aired the next week on purerockradio.com along with the podcast shared, a great amount if not all 50 + blurbs will be available.

But for now, tomorrow, maybe Monday, I will only get done what I can, and publish what makes sense. All of it by Tuesday's call-in? if I get in-the-zone, perhaps. But pulling that off would be one of those miracle-jobs of mine.

It also is probably worth mentioning, the 5-year anniversary of this blog came on December 4th, 2011, but I didn't write anything officially until December 21st. So this Wednesday is sort in-effect my 5-year anniversary. What may I do for it? I honestly don't know right now; perhaps something along the lines of sharing 1 or 2 memories/entries or something, lol. Or maybe nothing more than writing "Happy 5 years. Now it's time for me to quit..or maybe my goal now is to see if I can waste more of my life away in the next 5 years, so by December 21st, 2016 I'll know."

RUMOR: Anthony Green to work with Casey Crescenzo + tour with The Dear Hunter?

How do I say this as tactfully as possible: I just noticed some rumors about Casey Crescenzo and Anthony Green working together. I guess for fans of both, or for those fans of one and not knowing the other, if it happens, and they like it, good for them. But personally, unless something dramatically changes with Anthony's voice, I expect to not care much for any of it that involves his vocals.

So naturally I'm also not all that crazy about the idea if a tour were to happen with The Dear Hunter and Anthony Green. But again, if others enjoy that prospect, great. But I can foresee seeing The Dear Hunter and tuning-out or not catching any of Anthony's set, save for if Casey were join him on stage I suppose.

Edit: yep, from the new The Dear Hunter newsletter, the dates below are confirmed with Anthony Green, but not in or anywhere near Minnesota.
So, personally I can't be too upset. If we are to not get a tour here for TDH, at least it's not with a band/artist I love or would love to see them with like 3 or Between the Buried and Me (unlike the Porcupine Tree tour last year).

But, for the emo kids who know Circa Survive and Green in this town, perhaps exposure to Casey and TDH would have been nice. But then again, then those kids would show up at every subsequent TDH show and even hardcore dance. Which, now thinking about that, I'm sort of impartial too given I find the kids Hardcore dancing humorous now. But the past accounts of Circa Survive's fan base (not necessarily in MN mind you) still would not be all that favorable a group showing up, unless they didn't both the people I like (the progheads like myself and of course members of The Dear Hunter and any other band on the bill I might like).

Date Venue Location
1/13/12 Toad's Place - New Haven, CT
1/14/12 The Recher Theatre - Towson, MD
1/15/12 The Loft @ The Chance - Poughkeepsie, NY
1/18/12 Paradise Rock Club - Boston, MA
1/19/12 Bowery Ballroom - New York, NY
1/20/12 Union Transfer - Philadelphia, PA
1/27/12 State Theatre - St Petersburg, FL
1/31/12 Warehouse Live - Houston, TX
2/1/12 Korova - San Antonio , TX
2/2/12 Mohawk - Austin, TX
2/3/12 Trees - Dallas, TX
2/4/12 Tricky Falls - El Paso, TX
2/6/12 Clubhouse Music Venue - Tempe, AZ
2/8/12 The Epicentre - San Diego, CA
2/9/12 El Rey Theatre - Los Angeles, CA
2/11/12 The Glass House - Pomona, CA
2/12/12 Slim’s - San Francisco, CA
2/14/12 Hawthorne Theater - Portland, OR
2/15/12 Neumos - Seattle, WA
2/17/12 The Complex - Salt Lake City, UT
2/18/12 Bluebird Theater - Denver, CO
My .02 + more.

Exotic Animal Petting Zoo - The Tree of Tongues (2011) (1.0)

Release Date
"The Tree Of Tongues And Four AlphaBets" 2011 3rd Qtr

Facebook post

ATTN FRIENDS: After being 2300 miles away from home, numerous sleepless nights, being completely broke, living off of Ramen everyday and completing the last night of vocal tracking at 4am, "The Tree Of Tongues..." tracking is complete. IT IS VERY REAL. Official song titles will be posted soon. thank you guys for all your support!! Can't wait to share it with all of you!

In 2008, this band released their debut record I Have Made My Bed in Darkness which having gone crazy for Between the Buried and Me and some other bands combining Extreme Metal with progressive rock, within the last year, I was totally in love with them and that album.

For about 2 weeks maybe.

But then the vocals kind of hit me as being a little too high-in-the-mix, the Screaming/Punk/Core vocals specifically. Which sounds odd given I had/have learned to tolerate and even enjoy a lot of those kind of vocals. But I think they never were so high in the mix of the music, they didn't ruin or distract my ears.

I can claim to have had the same problem with bands like The Dillinger Escape Plan, Deftones, Thrice. And to an even worse degree Circa Survive (and I'll include Darla Farmer with them, but DF never repulsed me as bad as CS has, but maybe that is partially due to how annoying CS fans are).

But, I was just thinking, it may be worth revisiting IHMMBID again, just to see if I run into the same issues. Because before I did, I was totally into a lot of that record. Namely with the harsh -> beautiful sections.

So, what happens here, I guess has me curious. If the vocal style continues to fail though, I probably will forget about them. But they haven't gone that far under yet.

New Radiohead album in 5 days (2/19/11)

My thoughts about this? I'd consider listening if a decision was made to not have Thom Yorke sing on this album.

He's basically as unlistenable to me as Circa Survive's Anthony Green.

Maybe they'll offer an all-instrumental version of this album as well.

dredg tour dates supporting Circa Survive, Codeseven, and Animals as Leaders

OCTOBER 16, 2010 STONE PONY ASBURY PARK, NJ
OCTOBER 17, 2010 THE RECHER THEATRE TOWSON, MD
OCTOBER 19, 2010 CAT'S CRADLE CARRBORO, NC
OCTOBER 20, 2010 THE MUSIC FARM CHARLESTON, SC
OCTOBER 21, 2010 THE MASQUERADE ATLANTA, GA
OCTOBER 22, 2010 HOUSE OF BLUES LAKE BUENA VISTA, FL
OCTOBER 23, 2010 REVOLUTION FT. LAUDERDALE, FL
OCTOBER 26, 2010 HOUSE OF BLUES NEW ORLEANS, LA
OCTOBER 27, 2010 HOUSE OF BLUES HOUSTON, TX
OCTOBER 29, 2010 WHITE RABBIT SAN ANTONIO, TX
OCTOBER 30, 2010 WHITE RABBIT SAN ANTONIO, TX
OCTOBER 31, 2010 HOUSE OF BLUES DALLAS, TX
NOVEMBER 4, 2010 HOUSE OF BLUES ANAHEIM, CA
NOVEMBER 5, 2010 HOUSE OF BLUES - SAN DIEGO SAN DIEGO, CA
NOVEMBER 6, 2010 AVALON HOLLYWOOD, CA
NOVEMBER 7, 2010 THE REGENCY BALLROOM SAN FRANCISCO, CA
NOVEMBER 9, 2010 WONDER BALLROOM PORTLAND, OR
NOVEMBER 10, 2010 EL CORAZON SEATTLE, WA
NOVEMBER 12, 2010 THE COMPLEX SALT LAKE CITY, UT
NOVEMBER 13, 2010 THE SUMMIT MUSIC HALL DENVER, CO
NOVEMBER 14, 2010 THE BEAUMONT CLUB KANSAS CITY, MO
NOVEMBER 17, 2010 CABOOZE ON THE WEST BANK MINNEAPOLIS, MN
NOVEMBER 18, 2010 THE EAGLES CLUB MILWAUKEE, WI
NOVEMBER 19, 2010 HOUSE OF BLUES CHICAGO, IL
NOVEMBER 20, 2010 ST. ANDREWS HALL DETROIT, MI
NOVEMBER 21, 2010 HOUSE OF BLUES CLEVELAND CLEVELAND, OH
NOVEMBER 23, 2010 THE CHANCE POUGHKEEPSIE, NY
NOVEMBER 24, 2010 HOUSE OF BLUES BOSTON, MA
NOVEMBER 26, 2010 THEATRE OF THE LIVING ARTS PHILADELPHIA, PA
NOVEMBER 27, 2010 IRVING PLAZA NEW YORK, NY
NOVEMBER 28, 2010 IRVING PLAZA NEW YORK, NY

This is *that* tour that was rumored a few months ago; dredg apparently is not even co-headlining but a support act with those other 2.

The fact is, in 2005, Circa Survive opened for dredg. Reversals like this, are not supposed to happen, you'd think. Yeah I know, Circa Survive is on a major label, and has more fans, blah blah..especially after opening for Coheed, blah blah. Those facts frankly do NOTHING for me and how I feel about this.



"Circa"? as they are so often referred to as by the way. Did I miss something, or did the band change their name? "Circa" is the name of the Alan White (of Yes) and ex-Yes members Tony Kaye and Billy Sherwood side-project. Every time I see someone refer to Circa Survive as "Circa" I want to point this fact out, lol.

But here again, I have to live with the fact this band I am done with. Through, not-interested, and frankly sick as hell seeing their name. I have to deal with the fact they get stuck not only touring, but having one of my favorite bands in dredg, open for them.

I mean they just-won't-go-the-fuck-away will they? In 2007, they tour with Ours. And their crowd at more than one show, treat Ours like shit, throwing quarters and giving them the finger. Their were multiple accounts. All I would have to do is look up some of the history on the Killtheband forum to see.

And maybe almost as bad for me personally, the show in St. Paul that included not only Ours but The Dear Hunter as well, got canceled within a few hours due to someone in Circa Survive's band having a death in the family. Sure, it's sad and understandable for them, but it also meant both Ours and The Dear Hunter plus the other opener who I forget at this time, were not going to be playing that night either.

I had been looking forward to that show for months. And really hoped to get some kind of photo perhaps with both Casey Crescenzo and Jimmy Gnecco together.

All this within a few hours of the start of Thanksgiving weekend for me too.

Then a couple of years ago, with all the effort I put into helping spread Kaddisfly's name and having people hear their monumental record Set Sail the Prairie, they end up getting in some kind of showcase for some major label representatives in NYC. The details and circumstances aren't exactly black and white, but what I have read and seen others say was the label were going to sign 1 band, and it was between Kaddisfly and Circa Survive. And of course Circa Survive is the band they chose.

The parallels to The Galactic Cowboys and Nirvana thing back in the early 90's are kind of scary with that. The label chooses the annoying less-talented band, while the other is left to wane into obscurity.

THIS SHIT IS NOT FAIR.

And now they have dredg, of all bands, a band whose been around a lot longer and they once opened for, ends up opening for them.

Look, I have nothing against the people in the band Circa Survive, as I don't know them personally, etc. I know Anthony Green is a good friend to Casey Crescenzo and I imagine some of the guys in dredg given it was him and maybe some of the other members who I guess discovered the whole El Cielo/Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind thing a few years ago.

I have friends who enjoy their music of course.

And I know some of the members of Circa Survive are fans of bands I like, including Ours, given one of them (not Green) ended up chewing out one of the feeble-minded kids at one of those shows on that tour. Saying they were longtime fans of Ours, etc and I recall he made him apologize at that show. And there was a long-winded apology made by the same member of Circa Survive online, embarrassed by their fan base.

But I don't care for their music. I tried with their new album, and had some optimism with David Botrill working with them. But it didn't matter. I can't stand the way Anthony Green sings. The sound of his voice. The tone of immaturity has not gone away, and frankly, I suspect it may never.

And with that, I am really sick of seeing them left and right, touring-with bands I really am into.

However, it's not to be overlooked, Circa Survive being on this tour is not the only head-scratcher for me. Animals as Leaders being added is another. While I suppose I could stomach their music a bit easier than Circa Survive, there is a reason why their album from last year ended up on my Turkey List from 2009.

And I just checked out the new album from the band Fleshwrought, an album that included Animals as Leaders drummer Navene Koperweis (playing drums and guitar among other instruments). But other than some of the saxophone parts, I don't think I can say much positive about it, including his drums and guitar work.

I mean perhaps their music could be better live, but I'm skeptical. Instrumental prog-metal? I wonder if that drummer-turned-guitarist was trying to replicate the guitarist from Animals as Leaders style on that Fleshwrought album, because there were a few sections that the Satriani/Vai long-winded + pointless wanking sounded all too familiar to me.

It was really fucking boring, not to mention bad 4C and muddy production, and not an album I foresee wanting to listen to again to be honest.

So, dredg, who have been on some cool tours in recent years (even with the RX Bandits debacle from last Summer), are on tour with 2 bands I probably don't desire to give 5 more minutes of my time.

And then there's Codeseven, I guess who could be the wildcard on this tour as I honestly don't remember them all that much from a few years ago when I 1st saw their name. I mean I know/knew them, as they have been a popular band among dredg fans especially, really since I got into dredg back in 2005. I know I checked them out once or twice, but I don't remember enough about them to now know how I feel.

I do know, some of the members are in Telescreen, a band who opened for dredg a few years ago. And Telescreen actually has Jared from Distrails, a band who I really do like a lot, and want to see have a lot more success. But I don't think Jared is with Codeseven unfortunately. Although, maybe they'll be selling Telescreen and/or Distrails stuff at this show given the connection.

I guess I probably should revisit Codeseven now to see, especially given this is some kind of reunion for them I guess. And it may be a 1st/last time to ever see them.

Coheed and Cambria tour includes Porcupine Tree & The Dear Hunter (but NOT dREDG)

Some rumors about a dredg tour announcement within the last few weeks possibly (or probably) was referring to this.

Coheed and Cambria may have picked to tour with Porcupine Tree over them. Now thinking about it. The Dear Hunter being an opener, I'm suspecting Coheed was not going to choose between TDH and dredg.

Coheed announcement

We are happy to announce that we will be touring the US in August, starting August 12 at the Hollywood Palladium with the amazing Porcupine Tree!
We’re also elated to have Circa Survive join us again for the last 4 shows. The Dear Hunter will open all shows.

Black Cards will be accepted for early entry (tickets still must be purchased)

TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE STARTING TOMORROW.

SAVE MONEY and SECURE EARLY TICKETS by buying from our special fan club presale, starting TOMORROW, June 22nd at 12 noon here: http://tixx1.artistarena.com/coheedfans/
This site only has a limited amount of the tickets available, so it will sell out quickly - that does not mean the event itself is sold out. You must sign up to get your password.

General On-sale will be this Friday, June 25th at 12 noon and varying times. Check our tour dates for exact times and ticket information.

With Porcupine Tree, The Dear Hunter
August
12 Hollywood, CA – Hollywood Palladium
13 Las Vegas, NV – The Joint
14 San Diego, CA – 4th and B (21+)
16 Albuquerque, NM – Sunshine Theater
17 El Paso, TX – Club 101
18 San Antonio, TX - Sunset Station
20 Memphis, TN – Minglewood Hall
21 Asheville, NC – Thomas Wolfe Auditorium
22 Nashville, TN – War Memorial Auditorium
23 St Louis, MO - Pageant
24 Grand Rapids, MI – Orbit Room
26 Cleveland, OH – Nautica Pavilion

With Circa Survive, The Dear Hunter
August
27 Columbus, OH - LC Pavilion Outdoor Amphitheatre
28 Pittsburgh, PA – Ches Arena
30 Richmond, VA - National
31 Norfolk, VA – Norva

Some more thoughts about this.

1) I still don't know how I feel about Coheed live. They still may be as bad as some say, although I've read and heard they've gotten better in recent years.

2) Even if they have improved in concert, their music has gone the opposite as No World For Tomorrow was a big letdown, and Year of the Black Rainbow is even worse. So especially if their set list covers a lot of music from those 2 albums, which it probably does, I can't be too thrilled about them.

3) The fact Circa Survive is on this tour, even for 4 dates, is utterly meaningless to me, other than the fact they may have impacted another band (but not likely dredg) ability to be on it.

4) The tour of course is nowhere close to me. Not even Milwaukee or Chicago. Grand Rapids, MI, Columbus, OH, Cleveland, OH and St.Louis. I'm not sure even if I could afford another trip this soon, if the lifetime membership for concerts for The Dear Hunter would even work given they are opening for 2 other bands.

5) I'm happy for The Dear Hunter obviously. Although beyond the Porcupine Tree crowd, they aren't exactly being exposed to that many other likely new fans, given they've played some dates (mainly in the Northeast) with Coheed, and are/have with Circa Survive. However, maybe the best thing to come from being on the bill with Porcupine Tree is Steven Wilson will catch-on and become a fan (if he isn't already). Thus The Dear Hunter could go on tour with them in the future, and maybe the best part is the word-of-mouth thing. Like Mike Portnoy, when Steven Wilson likes a band, people catch-on to them, or at least check them out. Some folks obviously did catch on to The Dear Hunter back in late 2007 and 2008 after Mike Portnoy included them on his end of year list, but there's another demographic who pay attention to Steven Wilson. And it's not like Mike Portnoy's gone on and on about The Dear Hunter since (unlike some other bands like Beardfish for example).

But look at how well 3 have caught on along with Demians (or even groups like Mew, Pure Reason Revolution and Oceansize since Steven has supported them verbally. Not to mention Opeth or the amount of interest in Orphaned Land's new album recently. Although on the flip side, Anathema and some others maybe have not caught on as much despite Steven Wilson working with them).

That all being said, I just think this tour would be a MUCH BIGGER DEAL if it included MORE DATES. 12 dates with PT, 4 additional with TDH. And you look at the cities it's coming to, they are mostly MID-SIZE MARKETS. Which makes the lack of a Minneapolis show even more surprising.

The dredg thing, hopefully patience is a virtue. And remember what happened last summer with the RX Bandits fans walking out. dredg should go on tour with The Dear Hunter, and the The Dear Hunter only (or maybe someone like Bend Sinister as well). I think they have the most success when they don't need to worry about another band's fanbase walking out on them, and sadly, that may have happened to them again on this tour. Although I hardly would say I know the Coheed crowd well given I've never seen them live still (and may never).

Circa Survive - Blue Sky Noise (2010) + "Get Out" single..DAVID BOTRILL

4/16/10 3:16AM

Comments and elaboration about the band, their fan base and this album.

1) When they went on tour with with Ours in 2007, their fan base boo-ed, gave the middle-finger and threw quarters among other things at Jimmy Gnecco of Ours.

2) Upon my 1st positive impression of the band in 2006, some clown posted automatically playing videos of some other band or artist on their myspace page. I messaged the user who did that and expressed my disinterest for the good of the band. The reason being, when someone unfamiliar with a band, clicks on their myspace page, they should hear THAT BAND, not a video of some other band who has some user post a video when signing their page. I explained this to the user in a private message and they ended up taking all sorts of offense to it and had no agreement with me. In fact, I question whether they even understood why what they did was a problem. And it wouldn't surprise me they did the same on many other band's pages. But it's childish behavior like that, which is another example of how tactless many of their fan base are.

And then just recently on this very blog, a few of the responses to this entry I posted expressing my opinion and actually IN SUPPORT of the band in a lot of ways. If people actually follow why I would even include anything about them at this stage, they'd understand it was only because I may actually be able to like them again. But to not include my background and the whole context of my experience with them and their music would just be lacking in telling the honest truth.

But some of their fan base are still as petulant as how Anthony Green can sound, they had to try and reply to said entry no matter. Hardly the only examples (on this blog), but those failed trolling reply attempts were pretty much the end of my allowing ANY COMMENTS on this blog.

But with all that being said, my impressions of this album are this.

This album is better than their other 2 lps, but the biggest fundamental problem with this band still exists, and I'd assume will always exist as long as they have Anthony Green as their singer. He still sounds like a whiny little brat far too often. David Botrill's presence sadly didn't change that much if at all. He sounds like a kid who is sent to his room by his parents kicking and screaming. He annunciates certain words like a girl or a mother. "Grouwwwww-nd" for example at 1 point. No! no! no! Don't sing it like that you little kid! You sound like a spoiled brat when you do!

The sad thing is, he can sound good, or at least older and more mature when he sings in lower registers. In fact there's 1 track, a piano ballad that he does and his vocals sound fine on that song. If the whole album, and pretty much every song he ever sang in the future was that way, his vocals would be not only listen-able, probably pretty good. And actually, there are some moments he does chant or sing out higher, especially when doing harmonies and not using any words, that sound good. Like Jonsi from Sigur Ros or even Jimmy Gnecco in a way. But it's way too few and far between still. Maybe if they made an album with no lyrics, but him just chanting with oohs, ahhs, and la la la's, his voice would work.

It's awful how much of a waste the music on this album is, because there is some really fine guitar work and textural writing here. It would probably be good for the lead guitarist and drummer to do music in another project without Anthony Green, and get a better or at least adequate singer. Get the guy from Minus the Bear even, given Circa Survive is basically like Minus the Bear with a little kid singing. Such a sad waste of good music, and a waste of a major label release and record deal. And a waste that Kaddisfly didn't get said deal. All they need to do is get an acceptable singer, or hell even have him sing like he does in spots, and this would potentially be a fine record..maybe even a top 10 for the year. The cymbals clipping in spots were the only other issue with it, but the music is so good, that it would probably become a minor issue.

But no, I'm done with this band. The best producer in the music business today, David Botrill, couldn't fix their singer, so I don't know why I should believe it'll ever happen.


2/23/10 9:56PM

edit: track list added below.

2/17/10 12:03AM
This 3rd lp is being released on 4/20/2010 as well.




1. Strange Terrain
2. Get Out
3. Glass Arrows
4. I Felt Free
5. Imaginary Enemy
6. Through the Desert Alone
7. Frozen Creek
8. Fever Dreams
9. Spirit of the Stairwell
10. The Longest Mile
11. Compendium
12. Dyed in the Wool




Studio album by Circa Survive
Released April 20, 2010
Genre Experimental, Indie rock, Ambient, Progressive rock
Label Atlantic Records
Producer David Bottrill

key word in this is David Botrill, the man who has a very impressive resume at getting bands to SOUND GOOD. Fair to Midland's breakthrough "Fables From a Mayfly:..." is a perfect example in a lot of ways.

But as maybe I have or yet to have posted in this blog, Circa Survive I more or less cannot stand. I can't stand Anthony Green's 12-year-old-spoiled-brat feminine vocals. And maybe even more than the range of his voice, THE STYLE. the way he expresses himself. Blech..he sounds like Thom Yorke..maybe worse at times. blech blech blech..finger-nails-on-a-chalkbaord.

However, when I learned of Botrill's working with them, I decided I would give them 1 more shot. If ANYONE can get Green to sound listenable it would be Mr.Botrill.

Well, I'm not sure yet, but this 1st single sounds okay from hearing it once. And also what Botrill is a master of, is getting the LAYERS and ARRANGEMENTS to show muscle and punch. Compare the songs from i.f.s to Fables..that is certainly 1 of the big differences.

This album still may suck and Green as well, but like Riverside last year, I won't be shocked to find this to be the only thing this band ever has made/will make worth my time. Hopefully he got Green to start showing some balls and sing thicker and deeper. Not like the pussy he always sounds like on their 1st 2 albums.

And perhaps Botrill has also influenced their music itself to be much better. Which at times, separating what they have had without the appalling singing, has had some moments. But maybe Botrill got their instrumentalists and the band to finally grow up and become a professional band.

But if this sucks more or less as much as their others, I will never have any interest in this band again, until Green is gone as their singer.

also a little ironic and almost annoying how this new single is put up the very day Water & Bodies (the guys from Kaddisfly) release their new EP. This CS album is their major label debut, the deal that Kaddisfly was going for and in-effect lost to this vastly inferior band. ironies..they always force their way into these events..